-King Saul was given an evil spirit to torment him.
Paul (Saul of Tarsus) was given a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan.
The sower soweth the seed:
He that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
(Offended people can feel belittled. Offended people can become jealous. We know King Saul was jealous of David. Even though Saul loved and admired David in some ways, he secretly wanted him out of the picture. )
{Probably because King Saul thought More of Himself than of David}
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Consider the following about Saul of Tarsus:
- 2nd Corinthians: 11th chapter
11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool)
I am More;
in labours More abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons More frequent, in deaths oft. 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. 11:25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; 11:26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 11:27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon Me daily, the care of all the churches 11:29 Who is weak, and I am not weak?
who is offended, and I burn not ?
( Wow, sounds like someone is offended here. Does it seem to you that someone might secretly
want the "they" out of the picture also )
(and I also have to wonder about Saul of Tarsus's open, public rebuke
of Peter in Galations chapter 2 verse 11)
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Do you even have to wonder about why Jesus chose 12 disciples who had no religious credentials.
and
Why He didn't include "Pharisees" who already had their religious credentials?
(But He did mention pharisees were "whited sepulcurs full of dead mens bones")
and
Why He didn't include "Pharisees" who already had their religious credentials?
(But He did mention pharisees were "whited sepulcurs full of dead mens bones")
Do you ever wonder why the apostles said ;
"God" chose Matthias to be numbered with the 11 Apostles.
( Acts Chapter 1 ) to take Judas's vacant spot
"God" chose Matthias to be numbered with the 11 Apostles.
( Acts Chapter 1 ) to take Judas's vacant spot
and not a pharisee with credentials, instead.
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( This took place before anyone even heard of Saul of Tarsus )
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( This took place before anyone even heard of Saul of Tarsus )
Do you wonder what specifics the false prophet would have to show for credentials to qualify for " his" position?
Do you wonder what specifics the antichrist would have to show for credentials to qualify for " his" position?
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It would seem Both would quote the Bible, and give reference to the Bible's prophets and create some great religious sounding stories, but not repeat Jesus' words themself much at all.
It would seem Both would always talk only "About", "about", "about" Jesus... and not have much of a habit of quoting the words that come out of Jesus' mouth.
(because they don't really understand them or know Him)
and turn God into an object to be discussed instead of talking of Him as our Father.
Kind of like the demonic "Legion" who ran and fell down before Jesus feet at the tombs of the Gadarenes, ( a cemetary full or dead mens bones.) they would run from afar off and worship Jesus.
Only to be sent out into the herd of swine. ( Mark chapter 5)-
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- It would seem neither would say anything about being beware of the "Leaven" of "PHARISEES"
[ you know, the puffed up rhetoric by Religious big shots with pedigrees ]
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(and it seems they would talk about themselves quite a bit too..)
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but,
in spiritual reality wouldn't it need to be pointed, either directly or indirectly, toward grooming anyone to commit
Blasphemy Of The Holy Spirit ?
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Isn't it interesting that in Revelation 21:14 it is written
( Concerning New Jerusalem )
and the wall of the city had TWELVE foundations and in them the names of the TWELVE APOSTLES
OF THE LAMB
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It would seem Both would quote the Bible, and give reference to the Bible's prophets and create some great religious sounding stories, but not repeat Jesus' words themself much at all.
It would seem Both would always talk only "About", "about", "about" Jesus... and not have much of a habit of quoting the words that come out of Jesus' mouth.
(because they don't really understand them or know Him)
and turn God into an object to be discussed instead of talking of Him as our Father.
Kind of like the demonic "Legion" who ran and fell down before Jesus feet at the tombs of the Gadarenes, ( a cemetary full or dead mens bones.) they would run from afar off and worship Jesus.
Only to be sent out into the herd of swine. ( Mark chapter 5)-
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- It would seem neither would say anything about being beware of the "Leaven" of "PHARISEES"
[ you know, the puffed up rhetoric by Religious big shots with pedigrees ]
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(and it seems they would talk about themselves quite a bit too..)
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but,
in spiritual reality wouldn't it need to be pointed, either directly or indirectly, toward grooming anyone to commit
Blasphemy Of The Holy Spirit ?
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Isn't it interesting that in Revelation 21:14 it is written
( Concerning New Jerusalem )
and the wall of the city had TWELVE foundations and in them the names of the TWELVE APOSTLES
OF THE LAMB
Do you wonder ? - ( Maybe you know )
Does foundation number 12 in that wall have the name "Saul of Tarsus" or "Matthias" in it?
This is a very serious question.
After all, you know, Paul repeated himself many times,
(maybe a legion of times )
in his own writings , saying
" I am an Apostle."
Again, it almost seems like Saul of Tarsus would have been more honest if he had just said ... I would really like to be know as the Most Popular
Revered President of God's Fan Club.
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( Maybe Saul of Tarsus never got a chance to read the book of Revelation .
or
Maybe he did and it offended him)
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Do you ever remember a Prophet in the scriptures who just had to say over and over ( about themself ), "I am a Prophet" or did any of the original Apostles ever say over and over, ( about themself ) " I am an Apostle." or did Jesus run around saying over and over, ( about himself ) " I am the Messiah." ?
Does foundation number 12 in that wall have the name "Saul of Tarsus" or "Matthias" in it?
This is a very serious question.
After all, you know, Paul repeated himself many times,
(maybe a legion of times )
in his own writings , saying
" I am an Apostle."
Again, it almost seems like Saul of Tarsus would have been more honest if he had just said ... I would really like to be know as the Most Popular
Revered President of God's Fan Club.
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( Maybe Saul of Tarsus never got a chance to read the book of Revelation .
or
Maybe he did and it offended him)
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Do you ever remember a Prophet in the scriptures who just had to say over and over ( about themself ), "I am a Prophet" or did any of the original Apostles ever say over and over, ( about themself ) " I am an Apostle." or did Jesus run around saying over and over, ( about himself ) " I am the Messiah." ?
It is written that Satan can transform himself into an angel of light.
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( So, why then, would Pauls writings
be included
in the New Testament? )
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It is written: The wheat and the tares will grow together untill the time of the harvest.
Maybe this is why ... (You ask Jesus.)
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It is also written that Jesus said:
(John 5:43 KJV)
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Could it be the name
Paul?
Have you ever noticed how often the religious sites quote Paul, by his own name. Doesn't Paul kind of come in his own name? We are just taking his word for it that Jesus really sent him aren't we?
Luke, who we believe wrote the book of Acts, was not an apostle, but a diciple of Pauls.
I see no evidence where the original diciples (who were sent by Jesus as apostles) really endorsed Paul .
(They did endorse Matthias)
Paul also is not spoken about by the disciple whom Jesus loved (John) either.
There have been many so called anti-christs in history, but they never fooled more than a small group of people.
If it were "Paul" I think you could say that even the "very elect" could be fooled.
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( So, why then, would Pauls writings
be included
in the New Testament? )
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It is written: The wheat and the tares will grow together untill the time of the harvest.
Maybe this is why ... (You ask Jesus.)
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It is also written that Jesus said:
(John 5:43 KJV)
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Could it be the name
Paul?
Have you ever noticed how often the religious sites quote Paul, by his own name. Doesn't Paul kind of come in his own name? We are just taking his word for it that Jesus really sent him aren't we?
Luke, who we believe wrote the book of Acts, was not an apostle, but a diciple of Pauls.
I see no evidence where the original diciples (who were sent by Jesus as apostles) really endorsed Paul .
(They did endorse Matthias)
Paul also is not spoken about by the disciple whom Jesus loved (John) either.
There have been many so called anti-christs in history, but they never fooled more than a small group of people.
If it were "Paul" I think you could say that even the "very elect" could be fooled.
Could the anti-Christ and the false prophet have their "set-up" right under our nose
( since the time the Nicean Council assembled the New Testament in 325 AD )
and we still don't even see it.
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Remember !
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
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( We are not talking about something that could just fool an average believer only here are we? We are talking about something so absolutely genuine in appearance it could fool the VERY ELECT....)
So, do you still wonder who the false Prophets and their boss could be?
( since the time the Nicean Council assembled the New Testament in 325 AD )
and we still don't even see it.
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Remember !
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
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( We are not talking about something that could just fool an average believer only here are we? We are talking about something so absolutely genuine in appearance it could fool the VERY ELECT....)
So, do you still wonder who the false Prophets and their boss could be?
We've heard that when they are revealed, that we should "Look Up" for our redemption is near.
Proverbs 6:6-8 (King James Version)
Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:
Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.
It's time to meet the real and true I AM ( Himself ) !
In the process of trying to come to a decision about the writings of Saul of Tarsus, maybe it wouldn’t be a bad alternative to at least consider putting them in moth balls for a while and place them up on the shelf until you've had time to really think through to your own decision about them.
(seeking God Himself continually about it. )
It will probably take some time, but don't stop untill you have
made a decision you can face God (himself ) comfortably with.
,
http://www.moonrock.cc/
Proverbs 6:6-8 (King James Version)
Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:
Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.
It's time to meet the real and true I AM ( Himself ) !
In the process of trying to come to a decision about the writings of Saul of Tarsus, maybe it wouldn’t be a bad alternative to at least consider putting them in moth balls for a while and place them up on the shelf until you've had time to really think through to your own decision about them.
(seeking God Himself continually about it. )
It will probably take some time, but don't stop untill you have
made a decision you can face God (himself ) comfortably with.
,
http://www.moonrock.cc/
